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    Compiled negative comments: March 1998-September 1999
Here's the first edition of the negative comments. Isn't that just spatial? ... er, special? Our responses will be added later.

Note that our site has changed drastically since the old days of the AQ parody intended to humiliate them.


Name: Jackie Chiang
Website: The Sailor Senshi Page

Comments: Why is this page ridiculous and ignorant? Maybe because basically you seem to think that the Quartet's sole purpose in life is to bash poor pages that don't deserve it. Hmm, actually most of them do deserve the 'bashing.' If you'd actually visited most of the sites that the Quartet reviewed you could see why they're the worst. If you believe that every single page is made out of love and joy and hard work and should be respected, you should think again. Not everything in life is created out of genuine positive feeling/desire.

The Quartet's also helped end a lot of plagiarizing of my page and my friends' pages; I do not believe that plagiarizing comes out of hard work and dedication, and if you do, then you're deluded.

Oh wait, I forgot. You seem to think that so as long as no one decides to rip off my fanfics, anything else that is in the realm of 'stealing' is okay. Even though I spend ungodly amounts of time scanning and editing and FTPing, the pics aren't mine and should be avaliable for the general public to take advantage of that hard work, stick it up on their page someplace in two point five minutes, and give me no credit whatsoever. That's all fine and dandy with you because they're not my pics, I didn't create them. To me, that's a fairly good excuse for disrespectfulness and laziness.

It's even okay to have someone plagiarize my page because over all, I'm not doing anything new, am I? I'm just giving information and my opinions about something I didn't create; mine is just a 'fan' page. People who say that all pages should be respected because the authors worked hard on them are paradoxically also giving those same authors room to lessen that 'hard work' by stealing and plagiarizing.

I also would like to know what makes you think that people who create webpages and edit images and make movie clips [and FTP them without T1s at that] and make music files spend any less time and energy than those who write fanfics or draw fanart? Aren't fanfics and fanart just that- 'fan' fics and 'fan' art? Meaning that the writers are creating fiction based on preset characters and/or stories not created by them? Meaning that the 'fan' art are just artists drawing pictures of already made characters not invented by them? What makes the six hours spent scanning and editing images so much less important than the six hours spent writing a fanfic?

I haven't yet found a place where the Quartet has said that they hate all DIC pages and that those dedicated to NASM must be burned. Automatically, simply because the Quartet is doing something sensible in being against mixing information from both versions on the same page, they're anti-DIC? If that's so, then I should have a field day with your blessing in creating a page where I throw in the Japanese original with the French, German, NASM, Portuguese, and the Chinese versions of SM, all without distinction.

For some reason you find fault with the Quartet's suggestions and guides on creating webpages. I think if you actually bothered to read it, you'd find a large amount of good advice in it; if you think otherwise, then I'd have to question whether you have any clear taste whatsoever.

You also think that just because the Quartet criticizes something, they automatically think that they're goddesses. I'm guessing you're not a fan of movie critics, taste testers, book reviewers [fanfic reviewers], or anything at all critical.

If that last assumption is correct- it being the only logical conclusion I can assume with any favorable opinion towards you- then you're hypocrites. The fact that you created a page attacking another page is going against the very principal you're upholding.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the Quartet put some effort and hard work into their page? Nah... Couldn't be. They're just control freaks with their Big Brothers monitoring computer screens across the world, waiting for the dissenters to rise up so that they can smush them.

Your childishness is evident in the entire page but best of all in your guestbook- you resort to defending yourselves because you were five years old and already reading, because you have IQs of 24000 point seven, because you're such strong high school girls making 4.5 averages who can take anything that enemies throw at you. I think I speak for most when I say, "Whoop de doo."

And last, you know what? Some people actually have a thing called taste. The Quartet has good ideas and good reasons and has enough terrible pages to show why its service is necessary. It's amusing that the Quartet refuses to link to your page out of good taste; doubtless you would get more respect if you actually made this a serious page with backed-up reasoning to support your superficial opinions.

Oh yes, before I forget, loved that line referring to me in your image thievery complaints. It's a shame I actually care enough about my page to make it unique and interesting that I spend so much time on it, right? Geez, I'd hate to think that you were criticizing me for trying to have a... good page. And here I thought you were the righteous defenders of all pages... Guess not. [Or do I get too many hits on my page to count?]


Name: Ruby Emerald

Comments: Ms. Chiang, I have a question - why in the hell would you spend hours scanning and editing a bunch of pictures knowing damn well that someone else will take them? That's wasting time. I've got a scanner and some rare SM cards, and I'm a little hesitant to put scan them and put them up because someone might take them and then they wouldn't be so rare anymore. Images aren't the only thing that gives a page originality. Perhaps you already know this. Duh. Obviously you're sooo much smarter and mature than anyone else on the Internet, right? Why, you got a scholarship to Harvard or something? Valedictorian of your class (of you're a senior)? Why do you automatically assume (and this goes to Mara K. too)that anyone who has opinions different than yours has got to be stupid? This page has humor potential. Sure, maybe it does have a double standard. But there are millions of copmedians in Hollywood that have done the same thing that the Ayakshi have done and nobody's accusing them of being childish and immature. Go ahead. Tell me I'm wrong, you and your narrow minded self. Yes, it's wrong to take someone's images and information. But the only way to get rid of this problem is to hack into people's accounts and screw up their pages, and that's illegal as well as stealing. For some, 'bashing' a page is helpful. Take EmmanGod for example. His/her page was reviewed by the AQ themselves and he was grateful for it. Others aren't thankful. Here's a proposition. Why not ask the person if they want their page publicly reviewed? It could make a world of a difference, because as I said before, some people can take criticism, others can't. As for images, I'm really sorry that people are taking your images, Jackie, and anyone else who has this problem. Perhaps someday there'll be some kind of program that can prevent plagiarism and stealing images. I think that the Quartet is doing a noble cause. Sure, they could be a little nicer, but that's not the point. And this page is really entertaining for me. I like parodies. I can't help it. Well, I'm gonna go eat dinner. I'll be expecting some flames now, since SOME people can't handle different opinions ^_^


Name: Velius

Trotas shmotas, tapmsampa shpmapsapa...

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive."

Yeah! Let's establish an organization called "Get Rid of All Sucky Sailormoon Sites" or GRASSS! Ha ha ha ha ha at least the name is so much more catchier and easier to remember. ALL UGLY SM PAGES MUST BE PURGED!!!! Purge purge purge the ugly!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!


Name: Leto-chan
Website: Letocities - a world of Sailormoon

I'm a supporter of the Amazoness Quartet. I'm also a supporter of Freedom of Speech. ^_^. (We need capitals, they are important words. ^_^.) Which means that I'm also a supporter of this page!

However, I think I'll just explain to you briefly why most people don't share your way of thinking.

Okay, so everyone has probably told you already but I feel like talking, so... ^_^.

The Amazoness Quartet actually rarely humilate pages and rarely insult people. They simply review good and bad pages. They don't review bad pages unless they really are bad, like pages that steal heaps of things and pass them off as their own, pages that have absolutely revolting layouts and no quality content, etc.

I agree that people have the right to put up a website, but the thing is, if you reveal a page to the internet public, you have to be able to accept criticism as many other people will be looking at your page. The AQ simply review websites - not unlike magazines' reviews of movies and music - so that people will know what they're going to with a site. They also offer help for people who may have pages that 'suck' and celebrate those who've got good ones.

You may think: "Well, what right do they have to decide what sucks and what doesn't?!" Well, they are merely their own opinions and they take responsibility for them. I do think that people with websites must take responsibility for the quality of their pages. There are lots of major problems with page design that should be obvious, and if a webpage owner has really taken some care with their page, I'm sure they wouldn't be targeted by the AQ, who only review those who really have put little effort into their site.

I think the main good point of the AQ and other review groups is that they create a standard - encourage people to put more effort into their pages.

I don't think you're humiliating the AQ, I don't think they really care, but everyone has a right to an opinion.

As for your image stealing rant... I'm not sure I can agree with you. I agree that images belong to those who drew them, and that we should not claim them as our own. However, the tone of the rant suggests to me that you are encouraging people to help themselves to the images of others and that people have no right to have images/sounds/videos that are original to their page alone.

I think that if people help themselves to all images/sounds/videos and put them on their pages, it's not a good thing. While it's technically legal, it's not morally right! It does take effort to scan and edit good images, and to make videos. Sounds are fairly easy so I won't comment on them, except that MIDIs are darned difficult!

If someone has put lots of work into editing an image, and spent a long time doing it, I think that people who like that image should not take it. Lots of people edit images so that their page will look spruced up and original and it really takes away from the originality of their page if many other pages steal from them!

Although legally those images belong to those who drew them, I believe it's morally wrong to take things that others have edited without placing credit or even asking! After all, if you spent many hours creating an image gallery and lots of people stole your images so they could be found on every second page, it means that nobody's going to take an interest in your gallery any more even though you put lots of effort to bring images into it that nobody else had seen!

Well, that's just my view, and you're entitled to yours, although I'm not sure that a review group, that is meant to celebrate originality and creativity, should support a multimedia free-for-all. Yeah, it's legal, but that doesn't mean it's right! But thanks for bearing with me!

*grins*

May this site always stand strong.

Peace,
-Leto-chan ^_^.


Name: Supreme Goddess Mako
Website: Good Sailormoon Webpages for Dummies

Oh goody, my turn to publicly voice my opinion. First of all, this really isn't funny. You basically bashed the AQ's page(although bashing is wrong) without consideration for their reasons for making that page. I'd hate to say it, but you seem a bit hypocritical. I understand your purpose though: You don't like how the AQ cruelly disses Sailormoon pages without regard for why their pages are setup poorly. But then again, you don't seem to understand the AQ page, and you went about your purpose the wrong way. You could've been a little more constructive in your criticism. Also, the AQ isn't trying to control the net, they're trying to improve it. Sure, everyone has the freedom to set their page up anyway they want, but there is a thing called *style*. If you see an outfit in a store but it's too big, has tacky colors and strange buttons in weird places, will you buy it? No, in fact, I doubt anyone will. So why would someone want to visit a page that takes thirteen minutes to load due to a lot of pics and huge text, and not to mention that it's hard to read because of a bad color scheme. There are guidelines to making a webpage, as there are guidelines to doing most things. It's like Desktop Publishing. You're trying to be stylish and catch the reader's attention. Hmm, am I rambling?
Anyway, as for stealing pics and originality, I personally look down on stealing. People don't want to see the same pictures everywhere they go. And if you want to use someone else's pics, at least *ask*. What's so hard about e-mailing someone for permission to use their pics and waiting a day for a reply? Or if you aren't going to ask, at least give them credit somewhere on the page. *shrug* It's common courtesy for someone else's hard work. And yes I know, "Those aren't their pics!" Well they way I look at it it's a way to express your love for the series and Naoko's personal style(it *is* a 'fan' page afterall). I'm sure Naoko doesn't mind that we're using her pics as long as we don't say "I drew it." Or you could ask her that yourself. But tell me, if you took thirty minutes to scan and render a picture from a manga, set it up on your site and told people not to take it, then five days later found that twenty other sites had the same image, you wouldn't jump for joy would you?
Okay, I think I've used up my time. And anyway, those are just my opinions. And please understand where I'm coming from. I understand your opinion and respect it, and I wouldn't mind if you *constructively* defended your opinion against mine(after all, those 300+ IQs must be good for something, right?), but understand and respect where *I'm* coming from at least. Well that's it, have a nice day :P

-SGMako


Name: Mara K.
Website: mara.fsn.net
Referred by: Just Surfed On In!
From: Boston, MA
Time: 1998-05-29 02:33:40
Comments: I agree and disagree with the other people who have signed this guestbook. This parody of the Amazoness' page sounds more like sour grapes than anything else. You use a certain degree of sarcasm that is way stronger than necessary. You have stated in your guestbook that the point of your page is not to humiliate people, yet you state on your page that it is. There still hasn't been any clarification given in that regard. I think that the very existence of more than one page like the AQ page should be a huge wake-up call to the SM online community. I think that their mission to enforce quality control is a good one, and a well-needed one. The harshness, while by its very nature of being so, is also true in most cases, whether the reader likes it or not. I don't want to tell you what to do (other than clarifying the purpose of this page), and I don't agree with the views expressed on this page. It seems lik you (and others) have missed the point of the AQ's page, and focused on trivialities rather than the big issue. If we're too afraid to step on each other's toes once in a while, then we're never going to get anything done. I guess I just have an inherently different view on that than you guys.

Second, it's not "selfish" to want to keep one's page original. What's "selfish" is taking pictures that have been specifically marked as off-limits. It's plain old-fashioned courtesy to respect a person's wishes. Besides, if you look hard enough, you'll probably be able to find what you're looking for; on many occasions I've scanned an image in only to find the same thing elsewhere; the internet is like that. However, that comment is geared towards this 'Ruby Emerald' more than it is to the Ayakashi.

Oh, and as for the reason why people like to use Japanese phrases in their speech? Yeah, it is cute and trendy and stuff, but some people (like me) might be trying to learn the language!! Ja!! ^_-


Name: Usako
Website: The Usagi Sanctuary

Hummies... well... where to begin. I guess I'll start off on the Amazoness Quartet bashing thing. Well, you act as if they're evil demons who feast on innocent Sailormoon WebPage makers :P What they really do, is help people who have bad pages. They point out the mistakes and what they could do to help the page. The fact that they post it for other people to see, helps webpage makers realize that doing the things they did is bad. They aren't making webpage rules, but the things the things they point out about the pages are obviously bad. Next thing... You say it's like, okay to steal images, sounds, blah blah blah... I absoloutely hate it when people still my images. It's not that I'm being greedy, but I scanned like, 70 or so images, and that took me about 4 or 5 hours. I also edditted those images, and made them look prettier and stuff, which took me about another 2 hours. When you spend around 7 hours on images, and you find them on another page with no credit, this doesn't exactly make you happy. Granted, I didn't draw them, but what if you made the image completely different from the picture you scanned? Doesn't that count in some way? Next, on MP3s, movies and such. Granted, people didn't draw the pictures or compose the music, but they did have the merchandise to make it. I suppose that's it, sorry if I babbled on a bit TOO much --; - Usako


Name: Chibinine

Comments: Honestly. I don't really care if web folks are just starting out, bad sailor moon web pages have no place on the web. If you are just starting out, I suggest you get more info on how to make a web page, and only write about what you know, not info you got out of any sailor moon site out there. If you don't have enough info, talent, or skill, don't make a web site. The web is not a place to place a site just for the heck of it, it's a place to give others information, entertainment, help, and utilities. If you don't want to do that,then what's the point of making a site? The Amazoness Quartet are kindly giving away information about where to find a well done site, and to teach a lesson to those who carelessly made a site that was uninformitave, frustrating, and poorly done. This is not a flame. It's an opinion.


Name: Electra
Website: Electra's Spunky Sailormoon Page

Comments: How can you claim to be against page-bashing when this whole page is based on an idiotic urge to get vengence on the Amazoness Quartet?
People scan images to make their page look better and more original. If they don't want people to take their images, then people shouldn't. The internet may be a public domain but there's somethings called "courtesy" and "respect" which are just general good behavior.
Someone does not spend six hours scanning one picture. They spend six hours scanning an entire webpage's worth of new and original pictures. People do not have "no life" if they spend lots of time on their webpage either, its other things you may not be familiar with like "dedication" and the will to make a good, original webpage that is not a silly parody of one of the best pages ever.
Also, the quartet's page was not created to spite people, like this one. It was created because there are far too many very bad Sailormoon pages on the net. And bad pages dont have a lot of hard work and dedication in them; otherwise they wouldn't suck.


Name: Ben
Website: Millennium

Comments: Okay, I think this page is very hypocritical. It seems to claim that dumping on other pages is wrong when that is exactly what it is doing itself - dumping on The Worst Sailor Moon Webpages Ever. If you ever want to be considered as a serious threat to any of the webpage reviewing groups, I'd change a few things so it doesn't sound as if you're coming off as bad as the rest.

Lastly.. did it ever occur to you that pages like TWSMWPE existed for a reason? Are people who steal other people's hours of hard work and creativity supposed to get away with it? Hell no! I prefer to think TWSMWPE is doing people a favour. If you want to make a page about Sailor Moon that's going to inform, you've got a responsibility to get your facts straight, otherwise you're best off making a personal homepage or one about something else entirely.Thank you, I've said m'piece.


Name: Xplo

Comments: I think the entire premise of your site is ridiculous, and your cause is madness. I don't give a flying F*** how much work someone puts into their site.. if it sucks, it sucks, period. Besides which, the extremity of your parody shows just how ignorant/thoughtless you really are; I've read the AQ's design guidelines and they make perfect sense. There ARE dos and don'ts in web design, and if people would actually follow them, the quality of the web would improve. If you're not willing to acknowledge that, then I don't know how you expect anyone who knows what they're doing to take you seriously. According to your FAQ, one of you has a pretty good web site, but I think your FAQ is full of it, since if you knew anything about good web sites, you wouldn't have made a site just to "humiliate" the AQ.. I say "humiliate" in quotes because you only succeed in humiliating yourselves. No doubt the AQ, if they saw this, would be laughing their heads off at you. If there's one intelligent thing in this entire site, it's the lack of an email address.


Name: MoonBrat
Website: DIRE - Dic Is Really Evil

Comments: This page's design is pretty spiffy. I guess that's about the only nice thing I can say. Now onto everything else... You criticize the quartet for bashing pages. However, they are constructive, and have helped many, including me, with their pages. You say they inspire fear, but is that bad? If you REALLY fear them, shouldn't it encourage you to work hard on your page and not plagurize? I know that when I had my first page and was a newbie, I was a bit concerned that they would hate my page. So I changed it. I actually worked on a design instead of slapping things on a page like moat of the other bad pages. I got an original idea, and made my own images and backgruonds instead of stealing other people's. And most importantly, I don't plagurize. I now ask if a person would let me use, say, a sound file, before I just post it up on the page, directly linked from the other site. THe Quartet has taught me a lot about how to make a page a good page, or at the very least, how not to make a bad page. Tell me... Is that such a bad thing?

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